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Thu, Oct. 27th, 2005, 09:07 pm
dragonscholar: From the Trek front.

Actor George Takei, best known for his role as Mr. Hikaru Sulu in "Star Trek," came out as homosexual in the current issue of Frontiers, a biweekly Los Angeles magazine covering the gay and lesbian community.

Original article here.

I just saw this, and am curious as to the reactions in the Trek community, which has always impressed me as very tolerant.

(My own reaction is pretty much "GO GEORGE!").

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 01:16 am (UTC)

My reaction is "Did he really think we didn't know? Seriously?"

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 01:22 am (UTC)

He and his partner have apparently been together for 18 years. Wow.

I didn't know but on the other hand, I really didn't care. I could see why he wouldn't want to come out but I think that if he had done so earlier, parts of the Trek community would have been really supportive during the 1990s. Before that, with the people doing flee Trek because of the adult material and slash! Ew!

But this is like the second big come out in two days... and sort of notable to me for a couple of reasons. Sheryl Swoopes is the other big one.

Sheryl Swoopes and George Takei are a bit more noticable in that they represent under represented groups:
1. Female atheles
2. African Americans
3. Asians
4. Star Trek cast members

And the Sheryl Swoopes bit to me is a bit more interesting in that on her CNN interview, she cited a television show inspiring her to come out because if fictional character X can do it and not have it hurt her, then she can too. Which kind of begs the question of does popular culture breed tolerance or a perception of tolerance? Is it that inspiring? Or is it the other way around? Or does it just feed steretypes that inspire the more fundamentalist members on both sides?

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 01:21 am (UTC)

...Whoa. *reads*

Damn. Somebody just acquired a new fangirl. :D He's very articulate, I think.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 01:42 am (UTC)

I think he's lovely and good on him for making a public statement at a time when it might seem it doesn't really matter any more.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 01:34 am (UTC)

Well, I'm proud of him. :)

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 01:38 am (UTC)

Is it bad that my primary reaction is "damn, I bet he was hot for that Chekov lad" and my mind goes to RPS places?

It is, isn't it.

Oddly, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 02:14 am (UTC)

Koenig wasn't/isn't his type.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 01:46 am (UTC)

WOW! I had no idea...but I've always admired him, and I still do...maybe even more.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 01:51 am (UTC)

The exact reaction here in the Cold Wastes:

Me: Holy shit, Sulu's gay!

Roomie: Huh.

Then we went back to watching CSI.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 02:03 am (UTC)

I'm actually surprised people didn't know this. I heard this some years ago and I just assumed most of Trek fandom knew.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 02:05 am (UTC)

A friend of mine (who is programming co-head at Toronto Trek once described this as "the worst-kept secret in Hollywood."

OK, so he did again this afternoon.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 02:16 am (UTC)

Whoa. I'm a moderate fan of TOS and I think this is awesome. I'm right there with you--Go George!

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 02:30 am (UTC)
ctrl_issue: Rock on!

Pardon me as I devolve into even more of a retarded state than normal. ^_^ I had no idea, but I guess I should have known. He's my favorite character from TOS *remembers him in that one eps with the shirtlessness and the sword and the HAWT-nesssss*. If my admiration isn't the kiss of death for straightness in males, I don't know what is (B.D. Wong from Law & Order: SVU, and Eric Zsamanda from CSI-reportedly). Anyway, I liked both articles, and will be passing them on. They need to be shared by those, like myself, who didn't know.

I'm wondering if this might get a gay character on a Star Trek show in the future, though. I mean... as a main character. Maybe. Possibly. Hopefully.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 02:35 am (UTC)

Of course the Trek fandom is generally tolerant. Hell, that is where the term "slash" comes from, after all. *grin* But jokes aside, a fandom like Star Trek, whose source material tends to discuss large issues is going to be pretty tolerant.

Actually, I seem to recall the occasional gripe that homosexuality itself is rarely discussed in the Trek series; even by analogy, it's only been done twice--once on TNG and once on Enterprise--and both were weak. The books and other licensed material do a better job of it.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 02:53 am (UTC)

Wasn't it kind of there on DS9, when Jadzia was meeting all of Dax's previous hosts and she and that woman shared a hawt kiss?

Okay, it's only hot when I see screen caps of it now, because I was like, 9 when that show was on, and it apparently didn't phase me at the time because I have no recollection of their being any discussion of it on the show.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 03:06 am (UTC)

Never been a TOS fan, so I didn't hear the rumors, but I think it's cool of him to come out to the general public. I hope the publicity boost gets him some work.

Also, very impressed by the 18 year relationship. That's a long time.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 03:07 am (UTC)

Seriously. 18 years in a solid relationship is impressive period.
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Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 04:12 am (UTC)

He's been elected to public office? That comes as much more of a surprise.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 06:21 am (UTC)

Can I add another Go George!!
I think comming out is more difficult for someone of his generation, but I wonder why it took so long?
My experiences at least with TOS fandom is that it is a fairy open minded fandom.

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 02:40 pm (UTC)

My experiences at least with TOS fandom is that it is a fairy open minded fandom.

Sweetheart, that was the BEST Freudian slip EVER! *roffling*

Fri, Oct. 28th, 2005 10:08 am (UTC)

I am surprised that I'm surprised.